Science Fiction and Theology -- Part 6 -- Space Travel

I know this is hard to believe but my daughter picks on me. In specific she pick on me because of an app game I play on Facebook called Starfleet Commander. I play this one along with its twin sister Starfleet Commander Extreme. I am accused of being a nerd. It is just the thought of space travel has always fascinated me.

Not to mention theological issues abound.
1. Colonization of other worlds would change the way the Bible is interpreted. Particularly Revelation where current thought is earth centric.
2. Depending on the type of space travel -- issues abound as people are separated by distance. Relativity and all that. But even more puzzling is that realistic space travel you are dealing with cold sleep. This means either unmarried people or entire families would have to agree to travel together. (More on this later) The social issues of marriage come into play. Particularly if you get a separation due to travel that has no hope of returning to each other.
3. The vastness of space -- The universe is a HUGE place. I wonder what thoughts we would have about God actually travelling through the vastness of the universe?

Next:Cryo Sleep

Marriage and the Bible -- Part 17 -- Wives as Gifts

One thing that happens several times in the Old Testament account is on several occasions a man will give his daughter to a man in marriage for acts of valor or favors.
Do you get the feeling that this was about more than the surface? It was about making that man a part of his family. The obligations of this were BIG.

The only thing I wonder is how the girl would have felt about marrying someone simple because of obligation.

Next: Many Things Resurface.

Another Long Day

It has been another long day of watching my daughter play basketball, sleep and driving in snow. See you all after my workout.

The Book of Revelation -- Part 16 -- The Two Witnesses

The more I look at this passage the more I am convinced the symbolism is deliberately designed to conceal the identity of the two witness -- we are not supposed to know who they are. What is supposed to be significant is what they do:
1. The prophesy for a great length of time
2. They are called by God the two olive trees and lamp stands that stand before God on the earth.
3. Every time someone tries to stop them they are destroyed by the fire that comes out of their mouth
4. They engage in major prophetic acts that are designed to bring people to repentance but no one does.
5. It is not until they are finished that the Beast is allowed to kill them in Jerusalem
6. They rise from the dead and the whole world see them do so.

It is only after the last action do the people glorify God.

What can you say about this? Not much there is no recorded historical action that fits this vision and no clear answers as to who they are.

What is clear is that these two witnesses are powerful prophets who defy everything to do God's work.

Next: The Seventh Trumpet

No Time

Good grief where does the time go -- Work, Sleep, Workout, Get Ready for Work. Blog? -- Well this is it. It simply has not been a good week so far.

Nope

No creativity today either and I have no time at all today.

Creativity and the Blogger

I try to write something every day here that is creative and informed, but today I just don't have it. Sometimes, other things go well and today I did rock my workout so -- trade off. Tomorrow promises to be a busy day as well so I am not holding my breath for tomorrow either. Sometimes I surprise myself though.

Replies to Aristiono -- Part 5 -- Why I Believe Jesus is God?

Well, this is a tough question to answer, but at the same time easy. The simple way to put it is this -- how many people tell you what is going to happen to them and then tell you they are going to die and then three days and nights later they tell you they are going to rise from the dead? Not many. How many tell you these things and then do it? Only one person has ever done it. Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Now, unlike Mohammad whose revelation that lead to the Q'uran, the revelation of Jesus was public and witnessed. With Mohammad we are still left to trust that he just did not make it all up in the cave. Jesus on the other hand has multiple witnesses of his life, death and resurrection. These events are as historical as any other and have more historical evidence than any other event of ancient history. We have more eyewitness testimony from ancient literature that Jesus rose from the dead than Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon.



The historical fact of the resurrection means that all the other things Jesus said about himself not only true but empowered as truth. I mean are you really going to say that someone who rises from the dead does not know what he is talking about?
1. Jesus forgives sins -- Only God can do so
2. Jesus claims God as his Father making himself equal to God
3. John 1:1 claims the Word was God -- The Word is Jesus Christ.
4. The disciples and many others worship Jesus -- He does not prevent them from doing so.

I could list many more but these are enough.

More than this, is the present power of Christ as God at work in my life! How could I deny someone who removed my sins and transformed my life? It would be easier for me to deny the world is round or water is wet.

In my earlier days I studied many religions asking the question -- why do I consider my faith better than this? Simply put 1) I have a savior who is historically raised from the dead and 2) This Savior lives inside me to make me the man God wants me to be.

Islam failed for me because it does not change me. It could change my actions and thoughts, but it could not change my spirit. It is externals without meaning. It is salvation only from habit not sinfulness. In short, it cannot transform me like Christ has because it is not the truth.

Aristiono I want to thank you for the opportunity to answer these questions I hope it was informative for you as it was fun for me.

Finis -- with possibility of more is more questions come up.

Science Fiction and Theology -- Part 5 -- The Information Hyperhighway

Computers, cell phones, Internet, etc. etc. Do you ever feel overwhelmed with how much information you can access? Is it becoming alarming to you how much people can know about anything? It is to me.

When science fiction popularized the notion of computers and cell phones long before they existed people thought only of the wonders of it, now the problems of such information overload are becoming evident.
1) Privacy -- anything you put out there, is out there all over the place in seconds. A person who posts a picture of themselves must take not that someone can view it on the other side of the globe in minutes. What gets more disturbing is the fact that these cell phone things can take such pictures and download them. Is there really such thing a privacy anymore?
2) Information overload -- how much can you absorb? We are getting to a point where you almost need an information sorter to filter out the junk.

The future of this promises more speed, more info and greater access. Will we one day forget the real world for one that is digital?

Next: Space Travel

Marriage and the Bible -- Part 16 -- The Law of Moses

Looking Back at the Law of Moses concerning the issue of marriage I think it is safe to say we can make the following observations:

1. In many ways marriage can be defined in the Law a a contract between a man and a woman for the purpose of having and raising children.

2. This definition is significantly different from the idea of a man and woman becoming 'one flesh'. To be husband and wife in this sense goes a little beyond just having a contract to have children. The idea of being open and intimate with each other start right at the beginning 'naked and unashamed' is what Adam and Eve were before sin enters the picture.

3. As human history unfolds, the nature of marriage changes in many ways. a) Very quickly on we realize incest as we know it must not have existed because Cain and Seth would have had to marry their sisters, but at this time this is not forbidden by the law. Only later is the idea of incestuous marriages introduced by the Law. b) Polygamy is introduced very early one as an acceptable form of marriage. It becomes one of the chief characteristics of many of the characters in Genesis -- Lamech, Abraham, Jacob and Esau all follow this model. In some senses polygamy almost seems to a necessity in the producing of children in case the first couple fails to conceive, the handmaiden can be brought into the mix to produce a child.

4. Marriages are often arranged by others. There is little of romantic love involved. This is not a bust however as many of the arranged marriages work out.

5.One issue is intermarrying between the godly lines and the ungodly ones. The results are often disastrous so in the end the Law forbids the children of Israel from intermarrying.

6. One law that puts an interesting wrinkle on things is the law of an older brother's seed being preserved through a younger brother. It really brings home the 'sexual contract' only view of marriage.

7. Another Law is the law that requires a man to marry a woman if he seduces her and in so doing gives up his right to divorce.

8. That brings about the issue of divorce -- marriage as contract whose obligations can be set aside by the husband.

The thing that is sure is that at the beginning you have a situation where marriage does not exist so much as two people become one flesh but once sin enters it seems necessary to provide marriage as a way of enforcing the idea. This contract idea begins to express itself in different ways but always culture intrudes to bury the original intent of 'husband and wife".

Next: Giving Brides as Prizes

Double Post Later

Been a Busy Day so I will post twice tomorrow a little after midnight.

Facebook vs. Breastfeeding Mothers -- What's The Biblical Response?

I don't know how many people are aware of it but right now there is a heated battle going on between breastfeeding mothers and Facebook. Now, I have written on the topic of what nakedness is at length and this is one of those practical issues involving the subject. Back then I came to understanding of Biblical reality that basically said that nakedness is spiritual and that if Christians were going to try to make a Biblical case against a woman exposing her breasts in public from Scripture they would find it nearly impossible to do. There is no verse of Scripture that says that women's breasts are in and of themselves either sexual or a temptation to sin. Quite the opposite exists where women's breasts are either praised for their motherly role in nurturing children or for their beauty (Song of Solomon). Biblically there is no case to be made. In fact, you might say that the Bible is very positive about the use of the female breast to feed children and blesses it.

So what to do about mothers who want to post pictures of themselves breastfeeding their children? Biblically, there is no case against this and oddly enough maybe a case for saying this is good and wholesome. Church culture will of course disagree thinking that the morality they have created outside the Bible is still right.

Facebook has however done some stupid things on this. Above is a photo of a breastfeeding mother that was banned. At the same time here is a photo they cleared:

Now could someone tell me which of these two photos is more sensual? Shows more breast?
Another thing is that whoever is deleting these photos must be just pushing buttons at random sometimes. Another banned photo:

Even More Funny is this one:

So now great art work is to be banned because it has a breast in it and even female pigs are subject to being banned for showing their breasts?

Why do I mention this? Because this may be the issue that brings this whole thing national. If these women succeed in their petition and possible court cases as getting this defined as sexist and discriminatory that will of course pave the way for women should have the right to go topless, or topfree if you prefer, for the purpose of nurturing children or otherwise, simply because you cannot make a legal discrimination between the nipple of a man and a woman.

Organizations like TERA the Topfree Equal Rights Association make it crystal clear that to them this is not about religion but about equality under the law. There is also a statement that they do not believe the Bible says a woman should not expose their breasts -- they are right.

This fight is going to get ugly but in the end I believe that the law and the Bible may be on their side. IMHO

Replies to Aristiono -- Part 4 -- Pagan Influences on Christianity

I know that the crescent moon is an Islamic symbol but i am going to make a point about it later.

Aristiono makes two charges:
1. That Jesus' story and many pagan myths parallel each other.
2. That Christianity has been corrupted by paganism.

Well to the first, if you look at a lot of stories long enough you will find parallel to anything. There are a couple of key differences 1) The other virgin myths do not have the significance of redemption from sins that Jesus does. 2) The virgin birth of Christ has historical evidence to support it.

As to the second: yeah, no doubt that if any religion exists for too long it will be corrupted by something. Throughout church history there has been those moments when this has been he issue. Removing the pagan elements and other bad influences to Christianity has been motivation for many reforms during church history and ultimately the Protestant Reformation.

My point is this -- name me a religion that is still true completely to its original founding?

Now, I have a question -- if Islam is so free of these influences why do they use a moon as a symbol? The reason is that it is the former symbol of Mohammed's tribe -- which is symbol of the moon God they used to worship. My question to Aristiono why is it OK for Islam to take former pagan symbols and turn them to something for their religion but it is not OK for other religion including Christianity to do so?

Next: Why I Believe in Jesus.

President's Day

You know there is something odd about a holiday to celebrate Presidents. Most of them fall into the category of 'old dead guys' but some have been very notable. My favorite is actually Thomas Jefferson. His commitment to liberty, states rights and a weaker central government have always been an inspiration.

Today is a day to pick your favorite and have them inspire you.

Happy Valentines Day

You know what gets weird about this holiday? That there are at least three guys who claim sainthood by the Catholic Church who have the name St. Valentine and we really only have legends about two of them. It was like many holidays a product of legend and the Church's attempt to remove the pagan influences of the Roman world and replace it with Christian ones. Feb 14 used to be the beginning of a festival to celebrate Faunus -- the goat god of agriculture and fertility. You know the faun -- like Mr. Tumnis. It was considered to be a time for pairings to be done by lottery. That's right, boys step up an pick your lucky number for your new wife.

The Roman Church decided to change it by introducing St. Valentine and changing the nature of the holiday. The problem is which St. Valentine are we talking about? 1) The guy who performed marriages in secret in the Roman army because the Emperor outlawed them or 2) The guy who was smitten in love with a young woman and wrote a letter to her from prison and signed it -- "From your Valentine". Take your pick.

What is it today? Well, it is the day everyone goes broke trying to buy things to show that they love one another -- A day of romance and love in theory, but all those cards we buy are making someone money. I know -- I am the Scrooge of holidays but why is it that in order to prove my love to my wife I have to buy her something every February 14th? Oh, yeah because I love her. Wait a minute didn't I just say that? ;-)

Happy St. Valentine's Day

The Book of Revelation -- Part 15 -- The Angel and the Little Book

Revelation chapter ten is all about one thing the mighty angel and his little book.
Two significant things happen in this chapter:
1) Seven thunders utter something that john is told not to write because they are for the end. What then becomes interesting is John knows this stuff but no one else will but God and the angels.
2) John is asked to eat the little book in the hand of them mighty angel which he does -- it tastes as sweet to his mouth but bitter in his belly. He is then told to prophesy.

Now the angel is never named but I am sure some have tried --Michael would make sense but ultimately who knows and his name is not as significant as what he holds. The significance of the little book being eaten I partially understand because I am a preacher. Preaching or teaching is always sweet in them mouth but bitter to the belly. God's Word is always good to speak but harder to make a part of your life.

I think this vision has significance to John most of all but to the seven churches it was one of acknowledging John spiritual right to speak and know God's Word.

Next: The Two Witnesses

Replies to Aristiono -- Part 3 -- Some History Lessons

Aristiono in a comment to me made some of the following assertions:
1. Jesus was created by Constantine in 325 with the Nicene Council
2. The Roman Church changed worship from Saturday to Sunday
3. The name Jesus is derived from the Greek word "Ieasus" which means 'Son of Zeus'
4. Constantine made huge changes in Christianity that mandated it as the faith of the Empire and made changes to holidays and the Sabbath.

#1 -- I don't have any idea how a person could believe this -- Jesus is a well documented person and his name exists in literature long before Constantine. The gospels themselves are much older than Constantine and with the discovery of texts of the New Testament that are conservatively estimated at 150 AD and of the Gospel John the oldest gospel by all scholarly opinion. That thrusts all the gospels by evidence at least into early second century but more likely the first. All the Gospels talk of Jesus as a historical figure who lived and ministered in that century. To deny the historical reality of Jesus as a person from the first century is prejudicial -- we have more evidence for Him than any other ancient historical figure. Outside of Scripture we have a multitude sources that talk of Jesus. All of them long before Constantine. What confuses me more is that I was under the impression that Islam accepts Jesus both as a historical figure and a prophet.

#2 -- When is the Sabbath? I think a more important question is does it matter? We need to understand that all calenders have been modified and moved around so is Saturday really Saturday. One of Jesus' great teaching was that the Sabbath was about devotion to God not external religious control. To me the issue is to make sure one day a week is devoted to God and his work.

#3 -- Wow! Sorry this is just plain wrong. "Jesus" is a Greek transliterated form of "Yeshua" -- the Hebrew word for -- "The Lord is Salvation"

#4 -- No Doubt Constantine made some huge changes to Christianity, but some of those changes were simply because Christianity went from being a persecuted religion to one of acceptance. Hey, even I argue against some of the changes because I disagree with them. That is why I am a Protestant and not a Roman Catholic, although I have many Roman Catholic friends. As for the holidays, Constantine was attempting to remove the paganism from the Empire by changing the significance of many pagan holidays and then injecting Christian significance instead. In a sense he was trying to convert the holidays from pagan to Christian. It simply may be a case of good intentions but poor results.

Next: Pagan Influences on Christianity.

Science Fiction and Theology -- Part 4 -- Brain Transplant -- Effective Immortality

Probably the most sticky questions of Science Fiction are raised when medical ethics and technology are discussed. One thing has always been organ transplant. Now many of the medical procedures that do this where originally some form of Science fiction; now many are science fact. One that remains fiction in brain transplant. Perhaps it would be better to say central nervous system transplant. Robert Heinlein postulated this in his book "I Will Fear No Evil". In it a rich beyond billionaire transplants his brain into another body. The big issue though is the body is female and is young, sensual and pretty. By so doing the man extends his life into another.

This of course leads to a whole host of ethical questions:
1. Who is the person then? The brain or the body or both.
2. Does this really constitute a sex change? Not really in a sense but this could be used to do it.
3. Who would be a donor body for this?

Now what get really frightening is when you couple this idea with cloning.
1. Could we then keep spare bodies around when we get tired of the one were in? Effective youth and immortality.
2. Are such clones persons when their only function is to be the next shell?
3. What happens to -- a man is appointed once to die and then the judgment?

Gets interesting and sticky doesn't it?

Next: The Information Hyper Highway

Sorry -- Pastor Work Intrudes

One of my parishoners had a triple heart attack so I had to travel today to Grand Rapids, Michigan (that is about an hour away from me) to be bedside. As it turned out even though she had a Code Blue (her heart stopped once), she is alright and alive. Going to take a few days to get back on her feet plus some further surgeries and treatment but she has a good chance of making it.

No blog entry becasue of it though but as a bonus I will do two for tomorrow.

Marriage and the Bible -- Part 15 -- Divorce

Probable the most significant development in the Law of Moses is the idea of divorce. Up to this moment, there has been no mention of the idea of divorce in the Scripture; then Moses adds a marriage law that dissolves marriage -- divorce. The Law of Divorce basically gave the man the power to send his wife away if he was no longer pleased with her. All he had to do was give her a writ of divorce. Once divorced he could take her back unless she married someone else in the interim. There is no record that women have this right to divorce.

one of the interests for me is how this reflects back on what marriage is -- it becomes a legal matter or contract that can be broken. This is a far cry from conceiving of marriage as being one flesh. It is simply a matter of law.

Next: The Law and Marriage

Replies to Aristiono -- Part 2-- Some Simple Answers

Aristiono points out that the word 'Trinity' does not appear in the Scriptures. True, but that does not make the point he hopes it makes.
There are many theological concepts in all religions that do not appear in their Scriptures. Just because the word 'trinity' doesn't appear in the Scriptures does to mean the concept of the Trinity does not exist in the Scripture. The word 'Monotheistic' does not appear in the Scriptures (Jewish, Christian or Islamic) but all have the theological concept of a 'monotheistic' faith -- one God. We use many words outside the Scriptures to describe concepts that we see in them -- it does not make them false concepts simply because the word does not appear.

The Doctrine of the Trinity is such concept. The word may not appear in Scripture but the concept is there. It was created as a process in trying to understand how certain passages of Scripture could be true. Passages that indicated Jesus as both God and separate from the Father God. Passages that indicated another Comforter called the Holy Spirit -- also equal to God but separate in person hood. Three separate persons but all God (One God Together). The doctrine of the Trinity did not arrive as a result of pagan influence but a wrestling with an understanding of God and the Scriptures.

I wrestled with this myself on my own and had to conclude that the conclusion those who settled this long ago were right. The Trinity is just a way of explaining the concept.

Do I Believe in one God -- Yes. Do I believe in the Trinity -- yes. One God manifested in three persons all equally God, but all equally separate persons but united and one.

Next: Some History Lessons

Replies to Aristiono -- Part 1-- Introduction

On my last post, this gentleman sent me a reply that while it did not deal with the subject matter, did ask a lot of great and pointed questions. If no one minds a practical jaunt in theology I will answer them a couple at a time over the next week or so. For right now, I want to inform Aristiono of one thing -- I have read the Holy Qur'an. It was a while ago but I have read it. I don't mind reading it again to get back up to speed.

Right now though I have to get some sleep.

Fasting, Bodybuilding and Fitness

Ronnie Coleman above -- former Mr. Olympia
One of the things I have been considering is how one can fast and still be engaged in bodybuilding style fitness.
Bodybuilding requires a high level nutrition -- protein, carbs at a certain level, water (lots) and supplements. Fasting devastates a bodybuilders body. Without fat to burn, the energy comes from the muscle and other organs rather than fat. The very thing your trying to build begins to shrink. Not good.

One thing to consider, bodybuilding's strict nutrition requirements are so stringent it might be considered a form of fasting -- Daniel type -- lentils (protein) and pulse (veggies) with water. Bodybuilders restrict themselves constantly in a very similar fashion.

For myself the issue is one of balancing religious practice and staying fit. it is also a question of whether or not to ratchet my own fitness training up and still maintaining a practice I have found helpful in my spiritual walk -- fasting.

If I begin to look at the nutrition requirements as a form of fasting I could be looking at killing two birds with one stone. Joining things together this way begins to let you see how God has made us a a single being.

The Book of Revelation -- Part 14 -- The Sixth Trumpet

If the fifth trumpet was devastating, the sixth is catastrophic in comparison. It is an army like no other released on the rest of mankind -- it destroys one third of mankind by plain old violence. Probably one thing that is mentioned here is the fact that even though this plague was so devastating, people still do not repent of their idolatry but instead continue in it.
I find this not completely amazing becasue the nature of mankind is rebellion, but even after such devistation -- nothing. No change of heart.

Next: The Angel and the Little Scroll

Quick Post

Imagine my surprise a I looked up at the clock and realized I hadn't posted today. He it is -- short and sweet.

Science Fiction and Theology -- Part 3 -- Alien Religion (Faith and Practice)

OK, along comes and alien race with a Scripture that reads like ours but different and has a different concept of how God is. The issues are limitless. But the two that interest me the most are -- our concept of who man is, or better what our concept of being a being created in God's image is. If the alien race is also created in God's image and they are different from us in outside appearance what does that do to our concept of the image of God? What does do to our concept of being a person.
The other issue is faith along with practice of that faith. What is faith if an alien race has a different concept of what faith is? Practice: how is faith lived? Were talking prayer, meditation and service. So you have a race that serves God but their definition of prayer is to stand on their head -- what then?

Next: Brain Transplant -- Effective Immortality.

Marriage and the Bible -- Part 14 -- Other Laws Regarding Wives and Marriage

Now in the law there are many sundry laws regarding women and marriage that do apply to the discussion.
1. Exodus 20:17 includes not coveting a neighbors wife -- right up there with the rest of his possessions.
2. In the bond slave law Exodus 21:10 basically says that if a man takes a second wife he cannot reduce the rights of the first wife -- including sexual rights. A woman had sexual rights to her husband -- wonder if God was thinking of Leah?
3. Exodus 22:16 requires a man who seduces a virgin to take her as his wife and to give up his right to get rid of her. Deut. 22:19 and 29 restate this. I wonder what this would do to the unwed mother problem?
4. Leviticus 18 provides a life of relatives and relationships in which marriage is not allowed. A couple of interesting ones that a person is not allowed to marry a mother and daughter together or sisters together (Leah and Rachel?). Polygamy is assumed but now has some restrictions. Note: Both Abraham and Jacob would have been in trouble by these laws.
5. Leviticus 20:21 eliminates taking a brother's wife while he is still alive. If divorce takes place then a brother cannot have her. The law of a brother being required to take his older brother's wife to raise up inheritance still stays however.

What gets interesting is what is not condemned: polygamy. In fact there are some laws that assume its existence.

Next: Divorce

An Low Energy Post

Well, I am feeling better but my energy level is low and about the only thing constructive I have done in the last two days is sleep. Well, the one thing about fasting, even when it is forced on you is that you still gain something from it spiritually. Just a very calm spirit through the whole thing.

Well, I will get back at it tomorrow.